They're bad, their boys, and occasionally they talk about running.

Yes, it's the Bad Boy Running podcast with your host, Jody Rainsford, and David Heller.

Come back.

Baby, come back.

But a bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye.

I must admit I was a clown to be messing around.

But that doesn't mean that you have to leave town.

So do, Val is welcome to Bad Boy Running.

And we are next guests.

Quite often, we follow almost a train of conversations with our guests.

And actually, this one goes back to Mike Stocks, who took at the Run Show.

I've run with 10, 12 years, is the reason why I've done comrades, or comrades, depending

if you're American or me.

And our next guest was someone he recommended running with Hour 7, so working with Hour 7 as a gut specialist who we have been so desperate to try and find a gut specialist for years and get them on the podcast because we keep on shitting ourselves.

And thankfully, Jamie is the man he could do that.

He's got seven years of research in this. He's from Liverpool, John Moore's, is Dr. Jamie Pugh, Senior Lecturer. So welcome to the podcast, Jamie.

Wooee!

Thank you very much for having me on. This is really daunting. You guys have had some unbelievable guests. This is legitimately a podcast that I do listen to.

I've had some terrible guests as well though. So you're in the spectrum.

Oh yeah, some of them I just turn off. I get 10 minutes in and now. Let's hope I'm not the worst guest you've had. That's, if I can set that part, that's great. If you see it's looking down, it's because we're texting each other going wrap it up, wrap it up. As long as we'll rate it, we'll rate it after, after the thing. It depends on what you say. It depends on how controversial you are. That's what we're looking for.

Okay. I'll just make sure that I pull out all of the most controversial things for this and just

get people's attention. What do you say?

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