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Hey, everyone.

Welcome to the Foundations podcast.

I'm your host, Tony Peterson.

And today I'm talking to meat eaters' very own Max Barta about the obligation we have to our dogs to try to develop them in the best way possible.

So this is a fun one today. I actually, you know, met Max through meat eater here. He's been a

videographer with us for a couple of years. Super good guy. We filmed some deer hunts together,

and I found out pretty quickly that Max is crazy

passionate about bird dogs, and he has an awesome dog, Ruby, who not only did he train

himself, but it's his first real bird dog, and she's an amazing dog.

So I wanted to kind of get his process on how did he get the dog? How do he learn to train?

And how did he go about developing this dog to be so special, which is what we cover in pretty

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