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We're talking to Courtney Robertson from Ben

Flanick season of The Bachelor. She's the After Reality Podcast host, great friend of

the show, great friend of mine. We got a lot to talk about. We haven't had her on since July. I didn't realize that. I thought it was only a few months, but it's been over six months since we had her on. Having her on to talk about specific things this week, and you'll know what we're getting to and we'll talk about

that momentarily. So I wanted to bring Courtney on this week because of, you know, the biggest

thing in Bachelor Nation this week, the changing of the

spoiler and, you know, finding out that it was from Kelsey posting a Tik-Toc, which was found in a happy couple house because she

had spending time with Joey and I want to bring Courtney on because Courtney is a

former winner of the show she had plenty of happy couple weekends with Ben Flanick back in the day and she

shares some really interesting stories I don't want to ruin them yet but if you listen to the

daily roundup two hours ago you kind of already know one of them but I think it's really it was

really topical to bring her on and I don't want to sit down and you know this is

I understand that other podcasts do this and that's their thing but it's very hard for me to break down episodes of the show

When I already know the ending and I already know what happens to them in the future so talking about it in the moment and not and pretending I don't know what happens to them in the future. So talking about it in the moment and pretending I don't know what happens. It's just, it's very difficult to do. And I just, it's something that I, it's always been difficult for me. So when I have people on to talk about the episode,

I spend less time on the episode and more time on them.

And I think the first 10 to 15 minutes of my podcast

with Courtney is talking about her kids. I've met them once, they're

funny, I asked them all about them, she's got a boy coming in May, what they think of a new

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