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Alan Watts Being in the Way

Ep. 38 – What Is It?

Alan Watts Being in the Way

Be Here Now Network / Love Serve Remember Foundation

Dao, Alan Watts, Buddhism, Education, Tao, Philosophy, Taoism, Zen, Religion & Spirituality, Spirituality, Eastern Philosophy, Society & Culture, Self-improvement, Being In The Way

4.9748 Ratings

🗓️ 17 April 2026

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

Alan Watts explores the inseparable dance between structure and formlessness, revealing why the universe can never be fully captured by words alone.

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This time on Being in the Way, Alan Watts outlines:

  • Two distinct schools of thought: those who focus on structure, and those who focus on what Watts calls ‘goo’
  • How fixating on practicality is like knowing all the words to a song without ever truly hearing the music
  • The difference between a scientific perspective and a spiritual perspective 
  • Why structure and formlessness are inseparable aspects of the same cosmic process
  • Understanding that the universe cannot be explained with words alone

This series is brought to you by the Alan Watts Organization and Ram Dass’ Love Serve Remember Foundation. Visit Alanwatts.org for full talks from Alan Watts.

"What is it? What is this universe? What is an atom? What is energy? The only answer that would really please me wouldn't be an ordinary answer, because it wouldn't be in words." –Alan Watts

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1:05.0

Music Welcome to Being in the Way, the Alan Watts podcast.

1:19.7

I'm your host, Mark Watts, and today we've got some more treats for you from the archives.

1:25.0

These are some recordings that have not ever been distributed, including a

1:29.9

talk from 1962 or 63 entitled What Is It? These are recent discoveries from the Blasdell Institute

1:38.6

from the early 60s. I'm sure recently many of you have noticed the proliferation of AI copies of my father's works,

1:47.2

and my response to this has been to dig into the archives and find recordings that we have never heard before.

1:53.8

If you appreciate this work and want to support it, please visit us at allanwats.org and contribute to our archival and ongoing production efforts.

2:03.6

As the last consultant in psychology for the fiscal year of 1962 or 63 is about to appear before you today,

2:16.6

and he is very well known in the generic field of philosophy,

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