You don't have to teach you like, we are a racist country, we are not a racist country, but more like, hey, like we have these really important tensions about our founding.

Let's expose them. Let's discuss them.

Because this is trying to prove a point without really bringing in any sort of counter voice.

When you have to eliminate your central thesis as soon as you've been brought to scrutiny, that's a huge problem.

Welcome to The Lost Debate, a show for Politically Ecclectics. I'm Robbie Gupta. I'm Corey

Bratford. And I'm Ricky Schlaught. Well, Corey, what do we have today? On today's show,

someday, the current cultural wars over the 1619 project will be in the

history books. But how does it change how we look at history today? We'll discuss the hotly

contested project and why it's at the center of American political discourse. We got brand new

inflation numbers in just a few hours ago. And guess what? Those numbers are higher than Snoop Dog

on the top floor of One World Trade.

We'll take a look at the books. And finally, the will-they-wont-they couple of the moment,

Elon Musk and Twitter, why they're taking a break just when it seemed like they were ready to get serious.

But first things first, two defendants flipping pretrial, at least a dozen FBI informants, including one affectionately referred to as Big Dan, all a part of a sweeping plot to kidnap the Democratic governor of Michigan, Gretchen, Gretchen Whitmer.

Even with all that on their side, prosecutors still failed to get a single conviction, which is extremely rare in a federal case.

Federal cases usually have a successful conviction rate greater than 90%. So what went wrong here? Well, defense attorneys

for the four men who eventually stood trial convinced the jury that this was more of a case

of entrapment than conspiracy. Here's one of the defense attorneys making that case again after winning an acquittal for his

client.

Our governor was never in any danger.

And I think the jury, even though they didn't get all of it, you know, they smelled enough

of it.

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