The Rootforce. If it doesn't work, you're just not using enough. You're listening to software

radio. Special operations. enough. You're listening to Software Radio, Special Operations Military News, and

straight talk with the guys in the community. Oh, I, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

I'm, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, Softrept.com on time on target and next to me is someone the audience hasn't seen in like months

at this point if they exclusively listen to software up rate it because we haven't

to empower thought yeah no it's good to be back on the show.

It was tough to leave.

I mean, Soft Rep Radio, we started five years ago,

and at the time we started it, it was the only really outlet where people had access to guys from the special

ops community and I find it so ironic and we'll get into a little bit in a bit

that a lot of the same guys that used to really give us a hard time

now have their own podcast, their own books.

And so I think that, you know, I understand it.

It's like when you're on active duty, you don't have the same perspective as you do when you're

outside and you realize, okay, being a Navy SEAL or greenberry is great but now that I'm out and have a family to feed and have to put food on the table you know what what are my sources of income available to me you guys start training schools they start

companies they go work for companies or they they want to write their story and I think

that's great but I it's just funny to me. I'm like okay like there's some big names out there that were really harsh on

on what you know Jack and I were doing and I almost feel like we were the first soft rep was the first through the door and took a bunch of fire and kind of cleared the house right to put it in soft perspective

We've done the house clearing it's all clear now these guys are kind of coming in the back door and

and really not taking the same kind of heat that we did it sounds like you

want to get right into this topic then because we're yeah that's what you're

addressing so yeah no I mean I know that you told me about this Andy Stump thing and I said to you to be honest,

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