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Now, here's reality Steve. What's up everybody? Welcome to Podcast Number 377. Your host

reality Steve. Thank you all for tuning in. Great episode for you today. We've got Tessa Tukes and her fiance, Joey

Kirchener on the podcast. Tessa was on Clayton season of the Bachelor. She was

also on Bachelor in Paradise Canada where she got engaged to Joey, but Tessa has been in the news because a video that Joey made went viral.

USA Today did a story on it.

They were on the Tamron Hall show yesterday.

If you haven't heard the story,

it's something you should hear because it's very important.

Deals a lot with racism, being excluded.

I'll have Tessa run down everything in case you miss the story

and I'll fill in with some questions here and there

for it because it's really a fascinating

story and I'm glad that it's getting national attention. We'll get to all that

momentarily. The Daily Roundup was posted a couple hours ago if you want to check that out.

I did play a clip from Clayton Eckerd on the unplanned podcast.

It was a podcast he went on and I play about a 45 second clip maybe it's like a minute long

That is on Clayton's Instagram feed I suggest you actually go watch it on his Instagram feed as well

Because on my podcast you're only obviously

getting just the audio of it but it's so much more and you can hear it in the

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