things hold value because of how much they matter to us.

Right.

And that's what it's all about.

Like, and so that I, that's been like a takeaway.

I don't know, just when it comes to pettiness, but also when it comes to storytelling, like,

anything can have a tremendous amount of weight if you want to give it a tremendous amount of weight.

And there's also all these studies now that will tell you like the importance

of gossip and, you know, discussing. I'm so vindicated. You know, like the banal interpersonal things

that just like don't matter and why it matters to connect about them. And also the fact that

it's a little bit of like a female quality to, you know, to dwell, to dwell.

Welcome to the Stacks, a podcast about books and the people who read them. I'm your host, Tracy Thomas, and today I am joined by Kira O'Sullivan. She's an actor,

comedian, S&L writer, and one half of the dynamic duo behind the Petty Crimes podcast. Today,

Kira and I talk about the ways being a TV writer has impacted her ability to watch television,

the common denominator she's discovered behind most acts of pettiness, and the books that

she loves, plus the thing that gave her hope that she could build a career in comedy.

The Stacks Book Club Pick for June is The Art Thief by Michael Finkel.

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