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Yeah. Hey, we're playing my, we're playing my music for my Bill Simmons podcast, you know,

where's CymoCast thing? This is maybe the biggest podcast CymoCast of all time.

I'm maybe, maybe because they're ever been done before, but also because the topic is really important.

That's Julie at Libbyn. We worked together at Grantland. We're working together on our next venture.

Later, she's going to be talking about survivor and the NBA with Chris Ryan.

It's like a grab at like staring at us right now while working on his computer.

We're going to talk about the challenge. I'm so fired up.

America's fifth professional sport.

You used to have a podcast with our friend Dave Jacobi who tragically passed away a couple months ago.

We're out of Spina Rosa. No, he's not that. He's very much alive.

This was a big deal for us for you too. We love the challenge.

We did. We, we, from when we created Grantland June 2011, one of the goals was to give the challenge

the proper respect it deserved as one of the greatest sports.

I had it like neck and neck with hockey. I actually have hockey, maybe higher.

I think it's ahead of baseball for me now. I have it fourth, baseball's fifth, hockey third,

basketball football tied for first. It's probably third for me.

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