Ep. 366 — David Gergen

The Axe Files with David Axelrod

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4.6 • 7.7K Ratings

🗓️ 6 February 2020

⏱️ 63 minutes

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David Gergen is a former presidential adviser and CNN political commentator. He joins David to talk about how Trump’s State of the Union could shape his reelection chances, the electoral challenges Democrats face, and which Democratic hopeful’s message he likens to Obama’s and Carter’s. He draws on five decades of experience across four administrations — Democratic and Republican alike — to situate Trump’s leadership style in the context of his presidential predecessors and shares what he thinks it could mean for the future of democratic institutions.

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0:00.0	Music
0:06.0	And now, from the University of Chicago Institute of Politics and CNN Audio, the Ax Files with
0:12.5	your host David Axelrod.
0:19.0	David Gurgon is an institution in American politics.
0:21.6	He worked for four presidents, three Republicans and one Democrat, and has been in and around
0:27.7	the major events of the last half century.
0:30.9	Now he's a senior analyst for CNN, teaches leadership at Harvard, and we sat down the
0:37.9	day after the State of the Union, the day of the acquittal of President Trump, and in
0:44.0	the midst of the aftermath of the Iowa caucuses to take stock of where we are and to talk
0:50.3	about his own journey.
0:51.3	Music
0:58.3	David Gurgon, here we are, Bleree Ide, the morning after the State of the Union, still
1:05.9	mired in election night or caucus night from Iowa three days later.
1:10.4	A lot to talk about.
1:11.4	Normally, I would start with your story, and yours is a really interesting story that
1:16.1	helps inform your unique perspective.
1:18.7	But given the events of the last few days, I think we'd better start there.
1:22.1	Sure.
1:23.1	You are, Bleree, but I hope we're clear-eyed as well.
1:25.6	Well, give me your clear-eyed analysis of what you watched last night in the State of
1:31.1	the Union, both the President's speech and all of the atmospheric surrounding.
1:37.2	Well, the President's speech was, as everyone has discussed, but was highly partisan.
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