Some of us are insiders. We're at the table. We're in the meeting. We are appointed to

cabinets and administrations and boards and councils. Some of us are playing the

inside game. And some of us are not. We are pushing from the outside as organizers

and activists. And I want to teach you for a moment how how that works. I want to

share a story that I don't think I've ever shared here on the breakdown

podcast. And I want to tell you why neither group is better than the other but

both groups always think they are. Let me unpack and explain it and talk to you

about how I think we can influence the incoming Biden Harris administration.

This is Sean King. You are listening to the breakdown.

I want to start today by telling you a story. I tell a little bit of this in my book.

And I don't know that I've ever really talked about it here on the podcast.

Even though we're almost 400 episodes in in December of 2014 it was maybe a

week or so before Christmas. I found myself in a deep deep funk and I had

stopped everything in my life including quitting my job to help organize and

bring attention to the crisis of police violence in this country. I was

fighting for justice for Eric Garner from Mike Brown for John Crawford for

Tamir Rice. I got into no many of those families and slowly but surely come

December after nearly you know five months of four to five months of fighting.

We realized that there was going to be no justice for Eric Garner, no justice

for Mike Brown, no justice for John Crawford and it appeared that there would be

no justice for Tamir Rice. And it was devastating because those of us who were

fighting and organizing and would stop our entire lives to do this we had given

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