Hey, everyone, welcome to the Foundations podcast.

I'm your host, Tony Peterson.

We have a special bonus episode for you today where Ben Brettigan from, Onex, and I are going to break down how to find birds on public land.

So we are at the Southeastern Wildlife Expo right now, and I'm about to talk to my buddy Ben,

who works for Anex, passionate bird hunter, loves to hunt roosters just like I do, and we are just

going to talk a little bit about our strategy for finding birds, because a lot of times you hear

people say that, you know, there are no public land bird opportunities, and we're down here

way in the southeast. We're in Charleston, South Carolina.

So we're kind of in, like, quail territory.

And you hear this across the country.

And so Ben and I are going to break this down right now.

So, Ben, the first question I have for you is when you go duck hunting, let's say you got a bunch of mallards scouted out.

Yep.

Are you usually the kind of guy who's there before first light or do you show up about three hours later?

I like to find, I like to find a good flight, a loafing shoot generally, where you show up at noon.

I'm just, I'm giving Ben a little bit of shit because we had a little, uh, scheduling issue this

morning. I was working on Pacific time in my defense. A lot of stuff happens at these shows.

Yeah. Keep you out pretty late, make the mornings a little early. Yeah. But seriously, man, thanks for, thanks for doing this.

I know, you know, you and I have kind of flown in the same circles.

We live in the same state.

And I know you're, you're super passionate about the public land bird thing, get your dogs out there.

And I know you hear this and I hear this a lot.

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