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back on the Girls Gone Wad feed. But for now, you just get me with all of our wonderful guests.

And this week we're welcoming back mom Sandy. Hi mom Sandy. I'm back. You're back in your closet

with the dogs laying down on the ground. It's so great to where we get to have certain recording

studios where we're like, let's just go in the closet. It'll be better sound. But remember last

time we were like, let's talk about manifesting and then death happened in my life. I don't mean to

sound cavalier about it, but truly someone suddenly died in my life and my family. And I was just

like, we need to talk about grief. And I'm glad that we did. We got a lot of really good feedback

around that. It's, you know, grief and loss is not a joyful topic. Obviously it's really hard,

but it's necessary. And it often gets us talking about the hard conversations with our family. So

we wanted to reconvene and talk about the original topic, which is manifesting, which I have a

lot of feelings about because my first reaction whenever I think of manifesting is,

God, those people annoy me. However, I like truly enjoyed listening to some of the material

that's out there because I think there's a lot to it. So I wanted to really talk to you about it

because I learned about it, I don't know, 10, 15 years ago from a boss of mine at my old job,

she was like super into law of attraction and manifestation. And I remember that. Yeah, do you

remember that? Yeah. Oh my gosh, that's right. Back at the DA's office. And I remember being like,

okay, is this like devil's work? I'm so confused because I grew up Catholic. I was really entrenched

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