Often say to people, when they realize they're in big trouble, they're heading for hell, they believe that Jesus died on the cross. They say to them, what does that mean for you now? That happened 2,000 years ago. He died on the cross for essence. What does that mean? How can it help you in your dilemma? You're under God's wrath heading for hell, and they don't know. And he's on the cross in front of him

into the church, the Catholic Church, I'm doing a cross. dilemma, you're under God's wrath heading for hell and they don't know. And he's on the cross

in front of him at the church, the Catholic church, I'm doing a cross here. And they just don't

understand it. And I said, well, I want you to listen very carefully because this is going to open

the eyes of your understanding, understanding the fact that he died for our sins so we could

be released from God's wrath

by his righteousness as imputed to us.

And it's just Catholics are such fertile ground.

You know, I've spoken to hundreds, if not thousands of Catholics over the years.

And I've learned when it comes to these issues, when someone says I'm a room Catholic,

I've learned to go deaf.

I deliberately do it.

I learn to go deaf, Mark.

And by that I mean, I do not want to get drawn into an argument with them over their church doctrine.

Because they've got scriptures, they can, like we're saying, they can take one text out and say, oh, Peter's the Pope, Mary is this, she's exalted, she's the mother of God. I don't want to go in those avenues. I want to take them through the gospel because the gospel is the power of God to salvation, which is huge for me because it means I don't have to be eloquent when it comes to

Catholic Church doctrine and know it inside out and how to refute it because I'm not

their way inclined. All I have to do is faithfully give the gospel and leave it up to God.

Yesterday, Franz!

We were having an executive meeting here at Living Waters in our extremely posh boardroom when we went off on a rabbit trail into just insane idiocy.

And I said, guys, imagine how crazy it would be if like these things are recorded and like the public could hear it. And Oscar goes, uh, that's called the Living Waters podcast. That is. It's 350 podcasts later. Yeah, yeah. But I said that like in all seriousness. And then you were like, oh, yeah. And then it dawned on me. I'm like, oh. You made Daniel laugh with that one. That's exactly what we do. Yeah.

By the way, friends, I do have to interject to this because once in a while we do get an email from somebody who says, oh, this banter.

You don't like the banter wasting time.

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