And now, from the University of Chicago Institute of Politics and CNN, the Axviles, with your

host, David Axelrod.

Harry Truman once said if you want a friend in Washington, get a dog.

And no one's captured that quality of our nation's capital better than Mark Liebovich, who

wrote a book called This Town, A Costic Look at the Nation's Capital.

I sat down with Mark, who always has an interesting, rye, left-handed look at our political scene.

The other day, to take stock of where we are in this presidential race now and moving forward.

Mark Liebovich, good to be with you.

I look at you this time of year, and I always think of the piece you wrote about me in the

New York Times in March of 2010 when I was down with my family at Spring Training.

And I bitterly resented it because you are like the grim reaper when you call me.

Do you remember this?

You call me and you said, I'm going to do a profile of you and you said, I'm so sorry.

I think I apologize.

You did in advance, which I should have taken as a bad sign.

But the thing is, here's the thing.

You're the child of like psychotherapists or something, right?

I won.

One second.

Yes, I am actually.

I can own it.

Sure.

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