I'm Ray Besselston, and you're listening to the Plan Strong podcast.

Today's episode is one of those really important conversations. I'm sitting down with my good

friend and multiple podcast guest, Dr. Michael Clapper, Gandalf, a true legend, and someone who has been practicing

medicine for, get this, over five decades. And here's the thing. After all those years,

he says something that should stop all of us in our tracks.

Doctors are missing the most powerful tool that we have to prevent and reverse chronic disease,

and that tool is nutrition.

In fact, he's laid it all out in his brand new book,

Out This Week, Moving Medicine Forward, What More Doctors Should Know About Nutrition and How It Can Save Your Life.

We're talking about heart disease, diabetes, obesity, why they're not inevitable and why the system

isn't set up to fix them and what we can do starting immediately

to take our health back. This is about moving medicine forward, not only by teaching about pills

and procedures, but starting with what is on your plate. We're going to have this powerful conversation right after these words from Plan Strong.

I want to tell you a quick story.

We had a man named Jim who came to one of our retreats.

He was in his late 60s.

He was on three blood pressure medications, a statin med, borderline diabetic, nothing unusual.

His doctor told him, you're stable, but stable meant managed decline. He came, not looking for

a miracle, just trying to get some clarity. By the end of the week, his blood pressure had already started to come down.

His fasting glucose shifted, not dramatically, but enough to show direction.

And more importantly, he understood why.

Not just what to eat, but what was happening inside his arteries, his insulin response, his inflammation, that's what changed everything.

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