Ep. 343: Ryan Holiday Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

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Michael Covel

Business, Investing

4.6 • 732 Ratings

🗓️ 8 May 2015

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

My guest today is Ryan Holiday, an American author, writer, and marketer. He is the media strategist behind authors Tucker Max and Robert Greene, the former Director of Marketing for American Apparel and an editor-at-large for the New York Observer.

The topic is writing a book.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

Always being in a research mindset
Why some people don't take advantage of standing on the shoulders of the giants that came before them
To know where you're going and to have a plan when it comes to writing; why it's "all material"
The idea of listening to the same song over and over again
The "flow" state and its importance in writing
The importance of having a purpose in your writing
Discipline and commitments
Outsourcing and hiring experts for your writing project

Jump in!

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I'm MICHAEL COVEL, the host of TREND FOLLOWING RADIO, and I'm proud to have delivered 10+ million podcast listens since 2012. Investments, economics, psychology, politics, decision-making, human behavior, entrepreneurship and trend following are all passionately explored and debated on my show.

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Transcript

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0:00.0	This is Trend Following Radio, where great thinking comes alive.
0:10.9	Nobel Prize winners, legendary traders, bestselling authors, and the pros that know what drive us irrational human beings.
0:21.2	I am your host, Michael Covel.
0:24.0	Not filtered, raw, honest.
0:27.3	That's my passion.
0:32.6	Today in this show I have Ryan Holiday.
0:35.2	Ryan is an American author, writer, and marketer.
0:38.6	He's the media strategist behind authors, Tucker, Max, and Robert Green.
0:43.3	It's also the editor at large for the New York Observer.
0:46.5	This is Ryan's third appearance on my show, I believe.
0:50.8	We go in today to one topic near and dear to both of us, writing, particularly writing a book, a process.
1:00.5	There is a process behind not only writing a book, but having a great book that people read, that gets purchased by people, that might even become a bestseller.
1:12.4	There's a process behind this.
1:15.3	Ryan had a great post on his blog that I saw and I thought, wow, we could just take this post
1:21.1	apart as an entire podcast episode.
1:26.9	What's also interesting about our conversation today, I don't think you can do this completely,
1:32.0	but let's say you have no interest in writing, no interest in publishing a book, zero.
1:38.2	I have a sneaky suspicion you will get a lot from this episode if you simply substitute
1:44.1	the word writing for whatever
1:46.7	you are interested in.
1:48.9	That won't work exactly in 100% fashion.
1:53.2	But no doubt, much of our conversation today, while very specifically about writing a book,
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