They're bad, they're boys, and occasionally they talk about running.

Yes, it's the Bad Boy Running podcast with your host, Jody Rainsford, and David Heller.

Come back.

Baby, come back.

But a bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye.

I must admit I was a clown to be messing around.

But that doesn't mean that you have to leave town.

Go back.

We don't often get people back.

Probably not so soon as well.

We basically, as we finished, did we do with Tim, we said, did we want to continue

this? We want more. And we've had quite a bit of response from the listeners. And Rini,

Rie McVegger, who's been on a few times, she had a few things she wanted to kind of, to raise

as well. So really, maybe jumping in the conversation later. But what are the aspects of Tim's background that I personally find really interesting

that I don't think it's really been discussed massively in podcasts before or really addressed

as the main issue.

It's just his relationship with the scientific community and the fact that Tim has been the darling and the

devil depending on the time so um to tell us that part of the story that we don't think we

covered at all welcome back on the podcast Tim next great fantastic to be back. Thank you so much.

Really appreciate you.

I mean, would you say that's a fair interpretation of...

It takes insight to put together what you said, because most people sort of gloss over that

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