This is Trend Following Radio, where great thinking comes alive.

Nobel Prize winners, legendary traders, bestselling authors, and the pros that know what drive us irrational human beings.

I am your host, Michael Covel.

Not filtered, raw, honest.

That's my passion.

Something a little different today.

First, a recent speech of mine. All about trend following.

Second, my guest today is William Urey. He's an American author, academic anthropologist, and negotiation expert.

Co-founded the Harvard program on negotiation. That is our subject

today, negotiation. We're all negotiating for something. Money, love, sex, real estate, you name it,

we all have to negotiate. What's the best way to get there?

Hopefully some insights you can use today.

Again, two parts.

First, my recent speech on trend following.

And my guest, William Urey.

The thing that I really want you to think about is proof and questions.

Question everything I say, but note the proof.

Because I think one of the things that, in this, I'm going to beat this drum, I still remember when I first started seeing performance track records in the trend following

space.

And I kept saying, where is everybody else?

Where are the other ones?

There's these great stories about some arcane chart pattern or some guy named Gann that had

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