And now, from the University of Chicago Institute of Politics and CNN, the Axviles, with your

host, David Axelrod.

No one's had a closer view of this Republican field of candidates for President of the

United States than Lindsey Graham, because until a few months ago, he was one of them.

Now he's scratching his head, watching this very strange race for President on the Republican

side and wondering where it's all going to lead.

No one has more pungent, candid, and sometimes hilarious insights into this process than

Lindsey Graham, as you can hear, in this conversation we had the other day in Washington.

We're here with Senator Lindsey Graham in the Russell Building, so if you hear noise

in the background, it's authentic, chore or rumbling from the Russell Building.

Mostly lobbyists, banging on your door.

That's right.

Or my staff asleep, one of the two.

So Senator, one thing that caught my eye was that you folks were under tavern.

And the reason it caught my heart, I grew up in Chicago, but I grew up politically in

Chicago.

And there was a time when everybody in the city council was either a bar owner or a mortician

before you meet people.

Exactly.

One way or the other, you're going to go through both.

Exactly.

Yeah, in fact there was one alderman in Chicago who used to run under his slogan every time

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