We are back with another edition of Buckeye Talk, Doug Le Maurice from Cleveland.com here with Bill

Landis and Ari Washerman talking Ohio State football as always.

This is like our, like about our 100th or 200th podcast I think it is?

I think it's a 33rd.

Quite around in that range.

So we're getting we're getting we're getting we're so good at it.

We're the best podcast. I really think like we're the

ratings guys. We used to be the bad podcast. Now we're the best podcast.

That's a big leap for bad to best. We are going to talk about J.T. Barrett

today because he's famous and you want us to talk about him and when we put his name in the headline, maybe you'll listen to the podcast as a result.

Also, what we want to do is go beyond Heisman Talk, go beyond Record Talk, and talk about how

fricking good is this guy actually like J.T. Barrett is a very nice guy to talk to

Everybody says great things about him on the Ohio State team and you see him play you see him and what he has done

But then you watched like Deshaun Watson and Lamar Jackson against each other.

And you just, it's interesting to try to place him

in the pantheon of college quarterbacks.

And again, we're not talking about whether the brown should draft him or not you

know we're talking just about how good is J.T. Barrett which sounds like kind of a dumb obvious question, but Ari, I think it's actually a rather complex question.

Because you have to phrase it differently.

Phrase it, what is the, because we were talking about it before and it what not how good

is he but like where would you categorize what is he classify him what is J.T. Barrett

what is J.T. Barrett? Complex, right? Right, because it's like, and you can't

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