Ep. 329: Kierkegaard on Irony (Part Two)

The Partially Examined Life Philosophy Podcast

Mark Linsenmayer

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🗓️ 20 November 2023

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Continuing with On the Concept of Irony, defined as "infinite absolute negativity." K criticizes his Romantic peers of taking irony too far. So what is healthy, well-grounded irony?

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0:00.0	Today's episode of the partial examined life is sponsored by GiveWell.
0:03.7	Maximize the power of your charitable contributions at givewell.org. This is the partially examined life episode 329 part two discussing
0:21.0	Soren Kirkagards on the concept of irony.
0:25.0	1841, we focused mostly in the first half on his view of Socrates,
0:30.0	which I had one main point to add to that.
0:32.0	This is from page 177 in the book is customary to characterize Socrates position also with the well known phrase
0:38.3	Know thyself. So the question is what does that actually mean? The phrase know yourself means separate yourself from the other
0:46.2	precisely because the self did not exist prior to Socrates.
0:50.0	It was once again an oracular pronouncement corresponding to Socrates consciousness that commanded him to know himself
0:56.2	But it was reserved for a later age to go deeply into this self-knowledge. Yeah, and then just goes on to say that this is actually very much compatible with the Socratic
1:06.1	ignorance that he professed.
1:08.6	Let me ask one more time, do you feel like somehow this is ironic hyperbole on Kiragard's part. You could have talked before
1:15.8	Socrates about you know what makes you unique. Can you try to emphasize that like you know what kind of
1:21.7	person what do you want to be a shepherd or do emphasize that just
1:24.4	do you want to be a shepherd or do you want to be a politician like certainly there must be some sense
1:28.9	It's not like he introduced the whole social mobility and self-knowledge of any that just seems
1:34.7	very bizarre to claim that. It doesn't even make sense like thinking about the
1:38.6	Republic and the discussion of the division of labor and you know how it just state would be set up right so obviously the fact that people do different things that have different roles
1:49.8	Exists but that also must not be the way in which we understand the origin of subjectivity,
1:55.7	at least according to Kirkregard.
1:57.6	There must be something about that that's not subjective, which I think was what sort of Seth was pointing out. If society just assigned your role,
2:04.2	that wouldn't involve any subjectivity.
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