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The Partially Examined Life Philosophy Podcast

Ep. 328: Guest Yascha Mounk Against Identity Politics (Part Two)

The Partially Examined Life Philosophy Podcast

Mark Linsenmayer

Casey, Paskin, Philosophy, Linsenmayer, Society & Culture, Alwan

4.62.3K Ratings

🗓️ 6 November 2023

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

Continuing on The Identity Trap (2023). Which works better to achieve social progress; classical liberalism, or strategies involving emphasis of identity group membership? Do we even have to pick a side, or can we pragmatically choose strategies from whichever philosophy most effectively addresses the situation in question?

We discuss cultural appropriation, free speech, standpoint epistemology, and more.

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0:00.0

This is a partially examined life episode 328 part 2. We've been talking with Yashamunk about the identity trap.

0:13.7

I was most curious about what the status of this book is as a form of rhetoric that in another

0:20.6

interview you did with Coleman Hughes who's been on this show talking about social construction you say this is not a polemic

0:26.8

But I definitely read it as a polemic and in fact you have at the end of the book like here's strategies how to respond when

0:34.8

people attack you with the identity synthesis like it's is a manual you know as

0:40.0

if it were here's a manual for Christian apologists or something and when you have

0:43.8

unbelievers here's what to say in response to this and response to this like how is

0:48.0

this not a pole I mean you clearly have a political point that you want to make

0:51.5

it's not merely merely an history, it's not merely an observation.

0:55.6

You clearly, you know, feel strongly about the social thing that you're trying to put forward to the point of providing these.

1:02.9

I know it's hard to stand up to your peers.

1:05.7

I know if you're running a business

1:07.8

and people raise these objections and want to cancel you.

1:11.6

Like, well, we got to stand, you know,

1:13.0

it's a very practical advice that goes into,

1:15.3

at least the end of this book.

1:16.6

I think it depends on what you mean by a polemic, right?

1:19.2

I think I'm at pains throughout the book to present

1:21.6

both the subtle intellectual history behind these ideas and

1:24.8

you know the stronger versions of the claims that people are making on behalf of the identity

1:29.4

synthesis but you know certainly I have come to the conclusion that these ideas are as the title of the book suggests a trap that they are a big mistake

1:36.4

But they help to explain why so many progressive institutions have failed to serve the important missions over the course of the last decade because of the internal

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