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oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, Stop Rep.com, on time on Target. Episode 326, Jack Devine is here in studio,

former acting director and associate director of the CIA's operations outside the U.S.

Over 30 years in the CIA and the last time we had you on was

episode 309 and for those who don't know Jack's the author of Good Hunting

also the president and founder of the arkengue.

Yeah, my partner and I, Stanley arkin and I founded the arkend and I founded the arkeng group

almost 17 years ago.

Well, it's been in business a long time.

The last time you were on, people were raving about your history and your knowledge.

I mean, 30 plus years in the CIA, there's so much to talk about.

So we had to have you back in studio and this time

with Jack Murphy.

We have a lot of guys on the show who kind of work

where the rubber meets the asphalt

and then those ground pounders out there.

It's kind of rare that we actually have somebody who worked

you know high up at the level that you did

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