Hello. Hey John. Hi Merlin. How's it going? Good. How are you going?

How's it going? Good. How are you going?

Mm. Good. That sounded feisty. That was hardy sounding. I'm arguing with myself. I'm arguing with

myself. I'm arguing with the internet. Well I'm looking at people's lists on Spotify and I don't know. I don't want to be that guy, but some of the

terminology I think people get a little bit wrong. On Spotify about their song,

I think everybody is entitled to like what they like. Sure. But like

if I'm looking for chamber pop I'll suffer some Baroque pop for shizzle.

Yeah, yeah, but what I don't want is too much neosecadilia.

Oh, ha, okay?

I think I think on some level if you were writing a book, we can all agree. Penny Lane, yeah, oh, well, that's a chamber pop song, but like I don't need five Beatles songs on this list.

No. I know about the Beatles, I want to know some new things.

Yes, I've heard of the zombies. They're quite good. I want you to jazz it up a little. Give me some stuff,

some 90s, 2,000 stuff that I haven't heard. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, you want to jazz it up, but you don't want it to be jazz.

I don't want to see now jazz I could I could probably use some help.

I'm one of those guys the jazz jazz.

That's bad.

Jazz man. What is jazz? Spah. J. Jjjjjj-J-J-Jaz.

What is jazz?

Jaz is a swoony syncopated beat.

Over on the omnibus podcast, I talked a little bit about I did an episode on what you might call

classical, classical metal.

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