I am unashamed. What about you?

So we have upgraded on the unashamed podcast at so many levels.

So since I was into a Carolina and I wanted Jill to come on our podcast.

So this is Jill, who's Zach's wife.

And we've had, we've had Misty's been on the podcast, Lisa's been on the podcast,

Mom's been on the podcast. So we've had all the spouses except for you.

That does her tough, tough shoes to fall on.

This is your debut, Jill. And it's a bit major upgrade both in, in, in, looks as well as brain power.

So, so welcome to the show. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you so much.

It's really great to have you. And one of the things I wanted to, there's a lot I want to ask you about

before we get to your book. This Jill's written a great book. And so we're excited to talk about today.

But I want to, I want to talk about that because you know, obviously our audience knows him.

He's kind of the, he's kind of my, first he was my, my guest host.

And now he kind of comes on a lot in the fourth chair.

And we kind of see him as our kind of intellectual of the four of us.

Because you know, he uses a lot of big words.

I think he's just trying to impress us and make us look dumb.

But so tell us about a little bit about how you all mad and that kind of stuff.

Because you know, we kind of done that with all the other wise. Talked about kind of how initially we're drawn together.

Well, it's funny because Zach, I always say like Zach was the first like,

guy who loved Jesus that I met that I was like actually really attracted to you.

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