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The Breakdown with Shaun King

Ep. 318 - 30,000 Tiny Justice Systems

The Breakdown with Shaun King

The North Star

News, Society & Culture

4.812.6K Ratings

🗓️ 15 September 2020

⏱️ 12 minutes

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Summary

The United States does not have one justice system or one legal system. We often talk about changing the system, but in reality, we have 30,000 microsystems. Each microsystem has its own set of rules, laws, and politics, which is simultaneously great news in our fight to change the status quo, as well as horrible news. On today's episode, a rerun from last year that remains painfully relevant, Shaun breaks down what this means. ---- If you listen to The Breakdown and want to help support the work we do, consider becoming a member of our Patreon at www.patreon.com/thebreakdown for exclusive members perks and early access to content. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Today I need to unpack and explain a very important concept in great part because I want us to do some important work together and when we do that work I'm going to need you to understand what I hope to teach today.

0:15.4

The idea is this.

0:17.8

The United States does not have one justice system or one legal system.

0:24.0

We often talk about changing the system,

0:28.0

but the truth is it's 30,000 microsystems.

0:34.0

And that's good news and it's bad news.

0:38.0

Today I want to teach you something, all right?

0:40.0

This is Sean King, and you are listening to

0:43.2

The breakdown.

0:44.6

The breakdown.

0:46.6

The breakdown.

0:48.6

Break down.

0:50.6

The breakdown. Break down. The breakdown.

1:00.0

If you're listening to the breakdown, chances are you want to reform the thing that most people call the criminal justice system.

1:08.0

Now in this community of dreamers and reformers and abolitionists. We're beginning to call it the legal system

1:15.7

instead of the criminal justice system because it's not really just and everybody who enters

1:22.3

into it is not a criminal.

1:24.0

I don't even know that anybody is a criminal.

1:27.0

People commit crimes.

1:29.0

But when we call it the criminal justice system,

1:31.0

we immediately are framing it in a way that is problematic.

1:36.3

But whatever you call it, whatever we call it, I need us to understand a bigger point.

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