Welcome to the Vortex Nation podcast brought to you by lovers of hunting, shooting, public lands, the Second Amendment and good food. food. What is up everybody, Jim, to my right, Mr. Clay Hayes across from us virtually right now.

Jim, when it comes to the end of the world,

I'd love to say that I have my money on me,

but my money isn't on me it's on clay haze he is the in my opinion the

foremost expert on

survival,

Woodsmanship, practical skills,

and all those things.

And we've talked about a lot of those things on previous podcast so we've done clay we podcasted several times we've talked about you your story your history

Self bows Gemini you we made self bows with clay, that was still a, that's like a life highlight for me, very cool.

And what we're going to talk about right now though is not as primitive because at the end of the world

Maybe that's a little extreme but uh you're gonna need a way to get around is it mark

Is it extreme anymore? I hope so. At one point it was. I'm going to remain optimistic. But you're going to need a way to get around. And we use the iron horse these days. And so the topic of this discussion is,

into the world trucks, which I've seen a lot on the internet.

Yeah.

But, Clay's makes the most sense.

There's a lot of really dumb ideas that people have for what to do with their truck to make it like

apocalypse proof and you know whatever. But claysays when you really boil it down I don't know I

don't know what beats it but Clay I got I got to see this beast.

We were in Idaho, we met up.

You had just returned from harvesting some rocks.

Your pickup bed was full of rocks so maybe tell us a little bit about

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