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Michael Covel's Trend Following

Ep. 313: Jean-Philippe Bouchaud Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Michael Covel's Trend Following

Michael Covel

Business, Investing

4.6732 Ratings

🗓️ 26 January 2015

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

My guest today is Jean-Philippe Bouchaud, a French physicist. He is co-founder and Chairman of Capital Fund Management, adjunct professor at École Normale Supérieure and co-director of the CFM-Imperial Institute of Quantitative Finance at Imperial College London.

The topic is Trend Following.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

  • His firm's performance for 2014
  • Whether trend following actually "died" prior to it's "reappearance" in 2014
  • What trend following manages to exploit
  • Exploiting vs. exploring
  • Looking at volatility as a precursor to profit
  • Volatility as a measure of risk
  • Trend following as a genuine market anomaly
  • The behavioral biases in play as oil has fallen fifty percent plus
  • The feedback Bouchaud has received from peers on his newest paper
  • Whether other strategies exploit a genuine market anomaly
  • Bouchaud's philosophy on transparency and "secrets" in his work
  • Why Bouchaud's work culture is not a culture of MBA's

Jump in!

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I'm MICHAEL COVEL, the host of TREND FOLLOWING RADIO, and I'm proud to have delivered 10+ million podcast listens since 2012. Investments, economics, psychology, politics, decision-making, human behavior, entrepreneurship and trend following are all passionately explored and debated on my show.

To start? I'd like to give you a great piece of advice you can use in your life and trading journey… cut your losses! You will find much more about that philosophy here: https://www.trendfollowing.com/trend/

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Transcript

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0:00.0

This is Trend Following Radio, where great thinking comes alive.

0:10.9

Nobel Prize winners, legendary traders, bestselling authors, and the pros that know what drive us irrational human beings.

0:21.2

I am your host, Michael Covel.

0:24.0

Not filtered, raw, honest.

0:27.3

That's my passion.

0:32.7

Today in the show, I have Jean-Philippe Boucho, his second appearance.

0:37.3

Great first appearance over the summer of 2014.

0:40.1

Today, he comes on to talk about his new paper, written with several of his colleagues,

0:45.8

tail risk premium versus pure alpha.

0:48.1

There are two versions of this paper, a short version and a long version.

0:52.8

The links for both will be in the write-up for this podcast

0:55.9

episode if you want to read.

0:58.8

Now, before I jump into my interview, one quick comment.

1:04.1

Sandy Brasher forwarded me a Barron's article that looks like a date of January 23rd.

1:09.8

Can Managed Fut futures hedge funds revive?

1:12.6

Question mark.

1:13.9

Written by one Lauren C. Strauss.

1:16.9

The opening sentence,

1:18.0

Managed futures hedge funds caught fire in the second half of 2014,

1:21.9

ending a multi-year funk in which many investors had left the strategy for dead,

1:27.0

end quote.

1:28.5

Now, of course, remember, managed futures can mean any type of strategy.

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