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Let's some things be retrograde.

Guys, this is an exciting conversation.

As you know, Stephanie R explores in the space and one brand that has caught our eye in recent years

that we have become massive fans of is the new co.

And Duals Miller is joining us.

She founded the new co.

And she and I met in 2017 when the new co was merely an idea and a vision and just getting ready

to get off the ground.

And I remember you giving me little samples of product in like unmarked bottles.

And just to see the explosion of your brand and how it's just I think leading the charge in a space

in a way that I am not seeing anybody else do, it's just such a thrill to have you here.

So you can explain to us all of the science and all of the different formulations.

Because all I know is that I like it and it works and don't know much else at this point.

Yeah, just as like just as an add-on to that, I feel like we get so many since I didn't know you

before sadly. It was just a box of stuff that I got in preparation for the new episodes.

So I was like, okay, like I'll try this and see it.

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