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Today on the podcast, we'll be talking to Michael O'Hanlon.

He's a senior fellow and co-director in the Center for 21st century security and intelligence

and the director of research for the foreign for 21st Century Security and Intelligence, and the Director

of Research for the Foreign Policy Program at the Brookings Institution.

He also has a new book out titled The Future of Land Warfare.

We'll be talking about that future and what junior leaders and security professionals can do to

prepare.

Mr. Hanling, great to have you on today.

Before we talk about the future roles of the Army, I think it's important to understand the

past.

How have U.S. land force has been used in the past and what missions and roles have defined

their use?

Well, of course, we've gone through a lot of iterations of thinking about land forces in our history,

and certainly we've relived and relearned a lot of those lessons this century, and

probably added a few as well.

But the simplest of all is that counterinsurgency and stabilization missions are

extremely hard.

And perhaps that should have always been obvious.

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