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Ep 3: Terence McKenna, Ott, DMT, Pharmahuasca, Heroic Dosing, Utopianism & the Entheogen New Age

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Abby & Robbie Martin

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4.6814 Ratings

🗓️ 1 June 2022

⏱️ 152 minutes

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Media Roots Radio on Psychedelics: Episode 3: Terrence McKenna, Ott, DMT, Pharmahuasca, Heroic Dosing, Utopianism & the Entheogen New Age Abby and Robbie dive into the psychonauts that repopularized psychedelics in the 80s and 90s, focusing on the brilliant visionary riddler Terrence McKenna and his wild theories––from Stoned Ape to TimeWave Zero––his promotion of heroic dosing, his mainstreaming of DMT and the notion of DMT 'machine elves.' They explore the complicated nature of McKenna's legacy, including the pitfalls of the utopianism that he and others elevated about heroic dosing. They also cover the lesser known Johnathan Ott, a chemist who coined the term entheogen and pushed for the production of a Pharmahuasca, a pharmaceutical pill version of Ayahuasca. This is Episode 3 of an ongoing series on Psychedelic History, Episodes 1-4 are availible now. Patreon subscribers at the $5 tier get access to Episode 4 of the series: www.patreon.com/mediarootsradio Next: Episode 4: When Microsoft Employee #9 Boosted an Online Psychedelic Revolution, Erowid.org, DXM & Salvia [Patreon Subscriber Exclusive] FOLLOW // twitter.com/AbbyMartin // twitter.com/FluorescentGrey //

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0:00.0

This is Abby Martin.

0:03.7

This is a disclaimer to say that psychedelic drugs do not universally work the same for everybody.

0:09.2

They can cause psychosis at high enough doses,

0:12.0

and they can be life-changing in ways that are not always intended or desired.

0:17.0

Psychedelics should be used responsibly and with extreme caution.

0:21.6

No. Psychedelics should be used responsibly and with extreme caution. You don't get what you want, you get what you need.

0:38.3

I don't think you're going to spend very long involved with these things at a deep level without scaring your socks off eventually.

0:52.3

One of the great things about these psychedelic teachers

0:56.0

is that they are so gentle with beginners.

1:01.0

And then the flip side of that coin is

1:04.0

they are so unforgiving with veterans.

1:08.0

And I don't know, I mean mean I have hard trips often and the way I explain it to myself is

1:17.8

you know I pretty much accept Rupert Sheldricks notion of the morphogenetic field and

1:24.0

feel like the psychedelics amplify the morphogenetic field of the totality.

1:31.3

And, you know, why shouldn't I have difficult trips?

1:36.3

The totality is in such a weird state of turmoil.

1:40.3

I mean, you couldn't pay me to take five grams of mushrooms in the present circumstances

1:46.0

simply because I can feel the riptides in the historical dimension just churning everything into white water.

1:55.0

I mean, I'd stay out of the water until it dies down a little. Um,

2:01.6

yeah,

2:02.6

down,

2:03.6

down,

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