Ep. 3: Disinformation
The Re-Education with Eli Lake
Nebulous Media
4.8 • 628 Ratings
🗓️ 28 April 2022
⏱️ 43 minutes
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Summary
What happens when the gatekeepers of information—newspapers, television, social media platforms—dictate what is true? On this episode of The Re-Education, Eli Lake talks disinformation and misinformation.
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- 00:03 - Segment: IntroductionÂ
- 00:20 - Segment: MonologueÂ
- 20:44 - Segment: Interview with Commentary Magazine writer Christine Rosen
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, this is Eli Lake, and you're listening to The Reeducation. |
| 0:06.7 | Today's show is about disinformation, and our guest is Christine Rosen, a senior writer at Commentary Magazine. |
| 0:18.8 | Earlier in April, the Atlantic Magazine and the University of Chicago held a three-day conference on disinformation. |
| 0:25.3 | If you've read the elite media in the last six years, then you would know that disinformation is a serious problem these days. |
| 0:32.3 | The gatekeepers, the professional journalists, the academics, the government bureaucrats, are now widely disdained. |
| 0:40.2 | Millions of Americans no longer believe them. |
| 0:42.8 | So they turn to hucksters, conspiracy theorists, and even foreign propaganda to tell them what is true. |
| 0:48.9 | Our ability to self-govern is now in peril, the anti-disinformation industry tells us, because millions of |
| 0:55.9 | Americans can't even agree on reality. |
| 0:58.9 | How can you persuade someone who sincerely believes there is a pedophile cult that secretly runs the |
| 1:03.9 | government, or that the 2020 presidential election was stolen? |
| 1:07.8 | If only the plebes would listen to their betters, they might not be so |
| 1:11.8 | confused. Now that is a bit of a caricature. But to be fair, there's some truth to this broader |
| 1:18.4 | critique. The change is wrought to our society, not to mention our own minds by social media, |
| 1:25.1 | smartphones, and the internet are monumental. |
| 1:28.8 | Cranks have found large audiences. |
| 1:31.9 | Lies have been amplified. |
| 1:33.7 | Conspiracy theorists have built online communities that reinforce their elaborate unreality. |
| 1:40.7 | This development has had real-world consequences. |
| 1:43.9 | Long before the rise of Donald Trump and the COVID pandemic, |
| 1:47.5 | anti-vaxxers were able to organize online and create their own alternative narratives about life-saving vaccines. |
| 1:54.6 | A lunatic with a gun in 2016 stormed the Comet Pizzeria because he believed, based on what he read on social media, |
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