All right, welcome. My guest today is the leader. What's your official title over there, man?

Director. The director. That's a good one. It's the director of content, his prayer ministry out of

Colorado Springs, and he's a good close personal friend of mine. We were at Berkeley together,

although he's a bit younger. I was an old man by the time he was a student, but we both did prayer

stuff at Berkeley. I don't know about you, David. I just feel like the prayer stuff at Berkeley

in that season really shaped way. I'm basically doing the same stuff that I did then. Me too. Me too.

Right. Yeah. Yeah, it's funny because we just saw Ty Lam who is the leader at Luke 18 Project

at IHOP, and he's doing the same thing. And then obviously Joe Cam, who's a close personal friend

of ours who leads Niaz, House of Prairie in Berkeley, he's doing the same thing. It just seems

like all of us who really gave ourselves to seeing revival, as college students on our campuses,

a lot of us are still doing largely the same thing. We feel like God is still telling us to keep doing it.

Do you ever regret getting into this in the first place? No, I don't. I love that you bring that up.

I think there's a difference between people who gave themselves to the Lord. And I'm not saying

you had to have been part of the prayer movement specifically, but the people who set their course

and set their faith, it created trajectory. Whereas for those who don't, you end up wandering

through life. And I'm not saying that in a critical way or just over generalizing, but I think it's true.

What we've seen, especially just with our spiritual family from Berkeley over the years,

that trajectory really matters. And so I'm encouraged that God has probably been about 10 years

since we first met. We're still tracking. You guys may not know this, but Dennis and I,

we try to start a business together. Didn't get off the ground, but we're still in business of prayer.

And so yeah, we're, you know, I really want to encourage, you know, particularly young people who

may be listening in on this conversation. Those years, they matter. They're so formative. You know,

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