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🗓️ 30 October 2025
⏱️ 49 minutes
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In this powerful and eye-opening episode of Parenting Great Kids, Dr. Meg Meeker speaks with Ray Alex Williams, a man who transitioned to living as a trans woman—and later de-transitioned. His story offers rare, firsthand insight into what happens when someone believes gender transition is the answer, only to discover it isn't.
As more parents navigate complex conversations with their children around gender identity, this interview is a must-listen. Ray dives deep into how childhood influences, exposure to pornography, the allure of a new identity, and cultural pressures led him toward transition—and why faith ultimately led him back.
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About Our Guest
Ray Alex Williams is a writer, speaker, and advocate who shares his personal journey of gender transition, de-transition, and spiritual transformation. With deep candor, Ray speaks about the psychological, cultural, and spiritual factors that influenced his identity—and how his return to faith helped him find peace. His story offers rare insight for parents, pastors, and professionals navigating today’s conversations around gender and truth.
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| 0:11.6 | On today's episode of Parenting Great Kids. |
| 0:15.0 | Our guest is Ray Alex Williams, once identified as a trans woman. |
| 0:21.4 | Today, he shares his story of detransitioning. |
| 0:25.4 | You see this in like young men who they've been sold this idea that masculinity is toxic. |
| 0:31.5 | They have a lot of insecurity about measuring up to these standards of masculinity. |
| 0:35.7 | Like they're not like alpha men. |
| 0:41.3 | They're maybe never had a girlfriend, they're nerdy, they're... Welcome to parenting great kids. Here's your host, Dr. Meg Meeker. Ray, I am so grateful that you're here. Thank you for joining us today. |
| 0:51.8 | Yeah, I'm happy to be here. I'm glad to have made your acquaintance on TikTok |
| 0:56.5 | and happy to jump into these issues. I think this is a very important topic, particularly for parents. |
| 1:01.9 | There's so much confusion these days and people just want to do what's right for their children, |
| 1:06.5 | but a lot of misinformation about what that entails. You know, there is. |
| 1:11.1 | So let's talk about you. |
| 1:13.4 | Your journey was long and complicated and deeply personal. |
| 1:18.0 | But for our listeners who may be hearing about you for the first time, |
| 1:22.5 | can you just give us a brief overview and synopsis of your story? |
| 1:29.2 | Sure. I'll try and summarize it. |
| 1:32.0 | So long story short, I transitioned when I was 28 years old. |
| 1:38.8 | This was in 2015. This was in the trans tipping point. |
| 1:42.2 | You know, Caitlin Jenner was in the news. It was a big thing in our culture at that time. |
| 1:47.2 | You started to see more trans representation on, like, media. |
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