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Jenny, you and I have, oh yeah, we've struggled, haven't we really, with anxiety and feeling low?

We have, we have, I don't mind saying, of course I don't mind saying that, yeah, I have.

This is one of the great things though, isn't it these days, that is it is much easier to stand up and say I am struggling either with

anxiety for me a lot of my mental health problems have stem from anger actually which is something

that I've come to a conclusion about quite late in life is that a lot of my problems have been

via anger and jealousy. That's interesting.

Yeah.

But that's an interesting recognition.

And I do think that knowledge about how those things came about, it does help.

But nobody wants to be on a couch for, you know, for months on end talking about what happened in your childhood.

But I do think that therapy can unlock

patterns and can unlock you know sort of renew your patterns kind of maybe rewire you a bit

I do think that can happen and I also think that it is much easier these days to put your hand

up and say I need help yeah I'm having a tough time here.

But I think when you get help from people who know what they're talking about,

they are able to recognize that for some people, odd little things are the triggers that kind of tip them over the edge.

And it's great talking to friends.

And I think that we are much better at not being buttoned up about problems.

Oh, yes.

Thank goodness we are.

That is so true.

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