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Because you've always been sort of the leading edge of where media is going. With Politico, now with Axios, you understand the environment so well.

How do Democrats, and frankly, how does legacy media need to change the way it thinks about getting information?

I mean, a lot of the voters who went out and voted for Donald Trump that so many people are wondering what happened here, they're not watching, frankly,

this show, they're not reading the New York Times, they're not consuming media that way. And the Trump

campaign found those voters where they live. So how do Democrats need to change the way they

communicate to voters if you think that's part of the problem?

For sure. I mean, I think all of us have to come to grips with legacy media is just not as important as it thinks it is.

It is to you. It is to me that's a relatively small group of people who rely on us for their information.

And you have to go into the world as it is, not as you wish it to be.

And basically, the way people get information has shattered into 20, 30 different pieces.

And so if you just look empirically at the numbers, Joe Rogan's more important than any of us.

He just has a much bigger, hyper-connected audience that listens to his every word.

So maybe listen to Joe Rogan and kind of understand, like, what is he talking about?

What are the guests that he has on? What are the issues that they care about?

Realize that the gravity of right-wing discourse is now taking place on X.

It's not Fox.

X is what matters.

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