Ep. 293: The State Episode with Doug Casey and Charles Hugh Smith with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio
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Michael Covel
4.6 • 732 Ratings
🗓️ 17 November 2014
⏱️ 59 minutes
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Summary
My guests today are Doug Casey and Charles Hugh Smith.
Casey is the founder and chairman of Casey Research, a provider of paid subscription newsletter services espousing libertarian viewpoints as the justification for the purchase of highly speculative microcap stocks, precious metals, and other investments.
Smith is an American writer and blogger. He is the chief writer for the site "Of Two Minds". Started in 2005, this site has been listed No. 7 in CNBC's top alternative financial sites. Smith's economic works stress the value and efficacy of decentralizing power and wealth, the individual's power of self-determination and the value of community, which in his view has been diminished by the state.
The topics are state power and central planning.
In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:
- Casey and Covel discuss what it's like having traveled to over 175 countries and where one can find social and economic liberty today in this world; the advantages of being a perpetual tourist; why Casey describes himself as an anarchist; if whether there is a purpose anymore to voting in the United States of America; loyalty to the country where you were born; those who rule out the possibility of a financial panic in the future; quantitative easing and currency debasement; and what was the trigger for Casey's turn at life as a global traveler.
- Smith and Covel discuss how winners and are being selected by the state as exemplified by the 2008 financial crisis; alliances between corporations and the state; why there might be an uproar if equity markets were not at all-time highs; what happens when the typical wage earner can no longer substitute debt for earned income; stagnant wages and tradable labor; building your life around non state controlled opportunities; the decentralization of power and wealth; and the reliance on secrecy in politics to avoid accountability.
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| 0:00.0 | This is Trend Following Radio, where great thinking comes alive. |
| 0:10.9 | Nobel Prize winners, legendary traders, bestselling authors, and the pros that know what drive us irrational human beings. |
| 0:20.9 | I am your host, Michael Covel. |
| 0:24.0 | Not filtered, raw, honest. |
| 0:27.4 | That's my passion. |
| 0:32.9 | I'm calling this episode today the state episode. |
| 0:38.9 | State power, central planning. |
| 0:42.3 | That's where it's at. |
| 0:44.2 | Well, not exactly. |
| 0:46.1 | My two guests today love taking stabs at the state. |
| 0:52.2 | First, Doug Casey of Casey Research. Been around forever, a really interesting |
| 0:58.8 | take on things, an interesting way of thinking. My second guest today is Charles Hughes Smith. |
| 1:05.6 | I'm not sure how I found Charles originally, but his blog of2Mines.com is awesome. |
| 1:14.4 | Beyond taking stabs at the state, Charles also drives the dagger into the idea of a standard |
| 1:22.3 | issue job. |
| 1:24.8 | Very much the entrepreneur, very much about sustainability. |
| 1:29.5 | Both guests today right there in the same headspace, challenging the audience to question the state. |
| 1:39.2 | I hope you enjoy you are a man of travel i definitely have not had a chance to have anyone in my |
| 1:53.5 | podcast yet i'm well over 250 episodes i know no one has traveled to 175 countries and I think you've lived in 10 to 12 countries. |
| 2:04.1 | My big picture question for you right out of the gate, which I think will set the tone, |
| 2:07.9 | Doug, where can I find social and economic liberty today in this world? |
| 2:12.4 | I'm afraid there's not any place that you can go, but I think it was, it could have been Thomas Payne that 200 years ago that liberty has |
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