Ep. 292 - Investigating the Black Market Trade in Dudleya farinosa

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In Defense of Plants

Botany, Natural Sciences, Ecology, Nature, Plants, Science

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🗓️ 22 November 2020

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Plant poaching is abhorrent and we can’t work towards a solution without a proper understanding of the motivations behind it. That's where people like Dr. Jared Margulies come in. In this episode we sit down to talk about what he learned through investigating the illicit trade is one of North Americas most stunning succulents, Dudleya farinosa. What Dr. Margulies uncovered was a complex economy driven by highly specialized collectors, rather than "housewives and hipsters." Join us for an in depth look at the nuances of this black market plant trade. This podcast was produced in part by Cathrine, Melvin, OrangeJulian, Porter, Grif, Jules, Joan, Les, Marabeth, Ali, Margaret, Southside Plants, Robert, Keiko, Bryce, Brittany, Helen, Amanda, Mikey, Rhiannon, Michelle, Kate, German, Joerg, Alejandra, Cathy, Jordan, Judy, Steve, Kae, Carole, Mr. Keith Santner, Dana, Chloe, Aaron, Sara, Kenned, Vaibhav, Kendall, Christina, Brett, Jocelyn, Kathleen, Ethan, Kaylee, Runaway Goldfish, Ryan, Donica, Chris, Shamora, Alana, Laura, Alice, Sarah, Rachel, Joanna, Griff, Philip, Paul, Matthew, Clark, Bobby, Kate, Steven, Brittney, McMansion Hell, Joey, Catherine, Brandon, Hall, Vegreville Creek and Wetlands Fund, Kevin, Oliver, John, Johansson, Christina, Jared, Hannah, Katy Pye, Brandon, Gwen, Carly, Stephen, Botanical Tours, Moonwort Studios, Liba, Mohsin Kazmi Takes Pictures, doeg, Clifton, Stephanie, Benjamin, Eli, Rachael, Plant By Design, Philip, Brent, Ron, Tim, Homestead Brooklyn, Brodie, Kevin, Sophia, Mark, Rens, Bendix, Irene, Holly, Caitlin, Manuel, Jennifer, Sara, and Margie.

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0:00.0	Hello everyone and welcome to the In Defensive Plants podcast, the official podcast of
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0:52.8	All right, today's episode is mind-blowing. This was a
0:55.5	really cool conversation that gets to the heart of some serious issues in the plant world.
0:59.9	Today we're talking about the black market succulent trade for Dudlia. Many of you have
1:04.5	seen articles over the internet about succulent poaching, and my guest today decided to look at
1:09.5	it in a lot more detail.
1:11.9	Joining us is political ecologist Dr. Jared Margulase, and what started as a curiosity about
1:16.7	what's driving succulent poaching in Western North America turned into an incredible
1:20.8	investigative journalism piece that took him all the way to South Korea's plant markets.
1:26.6	This is really important work because it shatters a lot of
1:28.7	assumptions that people have made over the years about black market succulent trading
1:32.3	and brings attention to numerous ways that this problem can be ameliorated. So I don't want to
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