Ep. 291: Steven Kotler Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Michael Covel's Trend Following

Michael Covel

Business, Investing

4.6 • 732 Ratings

🗓️ 10 November 2014

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

My guest today is Steven Kotler, an American bestselling author, journalist, and entrepreneur. His articles have appeared in over 70 publications, including The New York Times Magazine, LA Times, Wired, GQ, Discover, Popular Science, Outside, Men's Journal, Details and National Geographic Adventure. He is best known for his non-fiction books, including the New York Times bestseller Abundance, A Small Furry Prayer, and West of Jesus.

The topic is his book The Rise of Superman: Decoding the Science of Ultimate Human Performance.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

Synonyms for flow
Flow in basketball and other sports
Group flow
Pattern recognition
The neurological explanation for flow
The four stages of flow
Why flow is not just a binary state
Spiritual experiences compared to flow states
Brain activity during flow states; the "deep now"
Getting to the flow state with drugs
The flow state and the act of being on stage
Why you need to take risks to get into flow
Social fear, risk, and pain vs. physical fear, risk, and pain
Method acting, screen presence, and flow
The military and flow research
Risk and comfort
The balance between challenges and skills
Getting comfortable with being uncomfortable
The fight or flight mindset
Future research into flow

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I'm MICHAEL COVEL, the host of TREND FOLLOWING RADIO, and I'm proud to have delivered 10+ million podcast listens since 2012. Investments, economics, psychology, politics, decision-making, human behavior, entrepreneurship and trend following are all passionately explored and debated on my show.

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Transcript

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0:00.0	This is Trend Following Radio, where great thinking comes alive.
0:10.9	Nobel Prize winners, legendary traders, bestselling authors, and the pros that know what drive us irrational human beings.
0:21.2	I am your host, Michael Cobell.
0:24.0	Not filtered, raw, honest.
0:27.3	That's my passion.
0:33.1	You might find this hard to believe, but serendipity,
0:40.2	those nice little surprises in life,
0:43.6	that's the way I run my podcast.
0:48.6	Now perhaps that's not exactly efficient.
0:51.4	Perhaps that's not the best way to do things. And perhaps in the future, that will change and there will be more
0:54.9	organization, more optimization. But as of right now, there's a lot of happy accidents.
1:02.9	This episode is a happy accident. I've had a guest in my show several times, Ryan Holiday,
1:09.8	an author, writes some really good stuff, has inspired me with all of his interest in Marcus Aurelius, which I absolutely love, stoicism, kind of like the angry Buddhist.
1:26.2	Anyways, I'll reach out to Ryan about once every five or six months and say, Ryan, give me some guest ideas.
1:34.7	Introduce me to someone.
1:38.0	My guest today was an introduction from Ryan Holiday.
1:42.7	Stephen Kotler.
1:45.0	And today, Stephen and I talk about flow.
1:48.7	His book that came out this year, The Rise of Superman, goes into great detail.
1:53.6	However, this is a fun conversation for me.
1:56.3	This really starts to break open the idea of flow.
2:00.8	Flow? The zone? being in the zone.
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