Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. Today I'm so excited about our conversation with

Roshan Copeland. He hosts a podcast called scripture and stories. He also is the author

of a new book, Start Where You Are. His testimony is incredible. His ministry is so amazing.

You are going to love this conversation. I will just warn you. You are probably going to tear

up multiple times throughout this conversation like I did because the stories that he tells

are just so powerful. It's such an encouraging reminder of God's relentless love and pursuit

of him. And so this is a great little break from the politics and the craziness that we've

been talking about because we're in election season. The fact of the matter is the subject of this

conversation. The gospel and how God pursues his children is the only thing that ultimately

and eternally matters. Yes, politics do matter because they affect people, policies,

affect real flesh and blood people that God cares about, God cares about the things that happen

here on earth. He cares about earthly justice. He cares about earthly right and wrong. So it is

important for us to talk about that. But at the end of the day, what God is after, what we should

all be after is the regeneration of the heart that comes by grace through faith and God. And so

that is going to be the driver of this conversation today. And I'm just so excited for you guys to

listen to it without further ado. Here is Roshan Copeland. Roshan, thanks so much for joining me.

Ali, I appreciate you still can't believe it. I'm chilling with you. It's really cool. I'm

excited. Yes, well, I was on your podcast first and you had to come on my podcast because you also

have the book that you were talking about. So we're going to talk about your story and why you

wrote this book and what this book is about and anything else that we want to get into today. But

first, will you tell everyone who may not know who you are and what you do?

Awesome. Yeah. So I guess the make it really short. I'm a minister who writes in a writer who

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