Hello and welcome to Happier, a podcast where we discuss cutting edge science, the wisdom

of the ages, lessons from pop culture, and our own experiences about how to be happier.

This week we'll talk about why you should get out of your storage unit and we'll talk

to the brilliant relationship therapist Estera Porelle who is the author of two best-selling

books about relationships and post of the great podcasts where should we begin and

how's work.

I'm Gretchen Rubin, a writer whose studies happiness, good habits, and human nature.

I'm in my home office in New York City, surrounded by pillows and blankets, and with me is my

sister Elizabeth Kraft, my sister the sage.

That's me Elizabeth Kraft, a TV writer and producer living in LA and Gretchen, I have conversations

in my head with Estera Porelle all the time.

She's my therapist, she just doesn't know it.

She just doesn't know it yet.

As a reminder before we launch in, remember we have announced our next book club choice,

Yacht Jessie's brilliant novel, Transcendent Kingdom.

We will be talking to her in episode 297 coming up in October.

Yes, so send your questions and comments.

Yes, we will.

Tee those up.

Now, in episode 287 we talked about the try this at home of steering clear of quicksand.

Some funny quicksands that we heard about from people included Facebook, Internet games,

Broadway show clips, not quicksand for me, but I could see how that could happen.

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