Hey you and welcome my name is Mike and in this all podcast well it's a two for folks.

I really like telling two stories in one podcast that has like a certain kind of momentum

to it.

And this story, this episode I have for you is is is preliminarily called or maybe finally

called like the team of this one is really that's where they did this really.

I'm calling it that because the motives in these two cases are weird.

Not the usual life insurance dance ones my favorite well okay maybe maybe just a little

bit of that or not because someone was having enough air actually wait no scratch that

there's a little bit of that too but no it's not just that the motives in these cases

are weirder than just that but in these cases besides the motives the crimes themselves

mishmish messed up gruesome especially the second one.

Now the first story I'm going to tell you it's last gruesome then the second but way

more horrific so you got horrifying and gruesome look forward to that.

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thank you thank you now let's give it a go.

So let's begin with story number one mainly because it comes before two.

Now this case really began on the waters off Newport Beach California on a boat called

the Well Deserved a 55 foot yacht owned by one Tom and Jackie Hawks they were living their

best life as people say do people still say that but when they decided they wanted to

sell their boat and move to Arizona to be closer to their newly born grandson one Skyler

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