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Together we are helping cure plant blindness around the world one episode at a time. Hello, everyone, and welcome to the In Defensive Plants Podcast, the official podcast of Indefensive Plants.com. What's up? This is your host, Matt. Welcome to the show. How's everyone doing this week? Before we jump into today's topic, I just wanted to let you know if you haven't heard it or seen it already. I was a guest on the recent episode of the Dude Nature podcast. It was a really fun discussion. Those guys are great, and you stand to learn a lot from the podcast, so go check them out. Our conversation is all about the evolution and ecology of carnivorous plants,

and I really thank him for having me on. Once again, that's Dude, Nature, Podcast.

All right, what do I have for you today? Climate change is a very difficult topic to speak about,

especially in the context of ecology, because it's never straightforward. It's a giant gray area. Some species are

going to benefit. Some species are going to be harmed by it. And it can be really hard to predict

what the outcomes are going to be. But that's where people like my guest come in. Joining us today is

PhD candidate Angelica Patterson to talk about her work on plants and climate change, specifically

as it relates to trees and rising temperatures.

She's a PhD student at Columbia University, but she is also a master science educator at Black Rock Forest in Cornwall, New York.

And it's so nice to see a scientist that's not only dedicating their time and efforts into trying to understand the actual science behind climate change and how it's going to affect plant communities, but also bridging that gap between the science and the education part of it.

It's so important that we have scientists that really know how to talk about this stuff educating the next generation of scientists or just concerned citizens.

Because the more ecological literacy we have

in the public, whether you're a scientist or not, the better the outcomes are going to be in the long

run. And remember, anything that happens to plant communities is going to eventually affect us,

but along the way it's going to disrupt and change all of the ecosystems we value because you can't have ecosystems

without plants.

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