All right, we are down to our last three cities for the live in the stacks tour, and if the first two stops were any indication, you do not want to miss this tour.

I will be in Washington, D.C. with Jason Reynolds on September 24th. I will be in New York City with KSA layman on September 25th, and I will be in Los Angeles on October 18th with three guests.

Yes, three guests, three of my favorite friends of the podcast, Rachel Lindsay, Chelsea Devantes, and Sam Sanders.

The show promises a night of big laughs, hot takes, and more bookish conversation than you could possibly imagine.

Tickets are selling fast, so head to the stackspodcast.com slash tour right now before they sell out.

Welcome to the stacks of podcast about books and the people who read them. I'm your host Tracy Thomas, and today I am beyond excited and honored to welcome to the stacks, the one and only Stacey Abrams.

Stacey Abrams is the former minority leader of the Georgia House of Representatives. Stacey is also a highly esteemed politician, lawyer, activist, and author.

She just re-released her 2001 novel, The Art of Desire, which is written under her pen name, Selena Montgomery.

The Art of Desire is a suspense thriller romance novel centered around a lovely but jaded maid of honor as she faces fresh temptations and imminent danger.

It was such an honor to talk with Stacey Abrams about pen names, romance audiences, and the ways that she feels her work as an author has made her a better politician.

Don't forget our September book club pick is Monsters, a fan's dilemma by Claire Deeter, which we will discuss with Brittany Loose on September 27th.

Everything we talk about on today's episode of the stacks can be found in the link in the show notes.

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And here's a shout out to our newest members of the stacks pack, Holly Barker, Kathleen Flaherty, Carla Benton, Christine Enders, and Trine Voris.

Thank you all so much for joining the stacks pack and thank you to the entire stacks pack for being wonderful bookish humans.

Okay, now it is time for my conversation with Stacey Abrams.

All right, everyone, I am beyond thrilled to welcome our guest today.

It is Stacey Abrams. You may know her as a politician. You may know her as a author.

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