Ep. 284: Jason Fried Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio
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Michael Covel
4.6 • 732 Ratings
🗓️ 17 October 2014
⏱️ 38 minutes
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Summary
My guest today is Jason Fried, the co-founder and President of 37signals, a privately-held Chicago-based company committed to building the best web-based tools possible with the least number of features necessary.
The topic is his book Rework.
In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:
- The first dollar Fried made online and other formative experiences
- Keeping business simple
- Making something more valuable than the dollars people give you
- The intimacy of exchanging money
- The idea of doing less than your competitors to beat them
- Building an audience
- The "real world"
- Why an MBA program might not teach you much about entrepreneurism
- Corporate structure
- Focusing on what will not change
- Zen and the moment of right now
- Not focusing too far into the future
- Fried's experience with Jeff Bezos
- Idea of improvisation or "winging it" in business
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I'm MICHAEL COVEL, the host of TREND FOLLOWING RADIO, and I'm proud to have delivered 10+ million podcast listens since 2012. Investments, economics, psychology, politics, decision-making, human behavior, entrepreneurship and trend following are all passionately explored and debated on my show.
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| 0:00.0 | This is Trend Following Radio, where great thinking comes alive. |
| 0:10.9 | Nobel Prize winners, legendary traders, bestselling authors, and the pros that know what drive us irrational human beings. |
| 0:21.2 | I am your host, Michael Covel. |
| 0:24.0 | Not filtered, raw, honest. |
| 0:27.3 | That's my passion. |
| 0:32.8 | Today in the show I have Jason Freed. |
| 0:35.1 | He's the founder and CEO of Basecamp, formerly known as 37 Signals. |
| 0:40.4 | He's the co-author of Getting Real, Rework, and Remote. |
| 0:45.0 | I personally love Rework. |
| 0:46.9 | If you have not read the book Rework, go read the book Rework. |
| 0:51.4 | I've looked forward to having Jason on for a long time because actually I've known Jason for a |
| 0:57.8 | long time. Not really huge personal, no, but Jason worked with me as a web developer in like 1999 or 2000 |
| 1:07.3 | before he became world famous massively successful CEO with Basecamp. |
| 1:14.1 | So just kind of a cool story for me to watch. |
| 1:18.0 | This guy just go from being a web developer, a really good web developer to this massive |
| 1:22.2 | success. |
| 1:23.8 | Awesome story. |
| 1:24.6 | I hope you enjoy this conversation. |
| 1:33.5 | Thank you. awesome story. I hope you enjoy this conversation. Listen, let me give you a little intel on the book rework. |
| 1:36.7 | So I'm in Saigon. |
| 1:38.8 | Oh, wow. |
| 1:39.8 | Yeah, there's not many business books that are translated into Vietnamese. |
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