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The Re-Education with Eli Lake

Ep. 28: Zawahiri Gets Smoked

The Re-Education with Eli Lake

Nebulous Media

News Commentary, News, Politics

4.6624 Ratings

🗓️ 3 August 2022

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

In this episode Eli and Foundation for Defense of Democracies fellow Bill Roggiio discuss the death of al Qaeda's leader, Ayman al Zawahiri and what it means for the organization that brought down the twin towers. America has made plenty of mistakes in the war on terrorism, but al Qaeda's dream of restoring the Caliphate looks like it will die with Zawahiri.  Time Stamps 0:01 Introduction 00:33 Monologue 12:19 Interview with Bill Roggiio

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0:00.0

Welcome back to the re-education.

0:03.0

I'm Eli Lake, and our topic today is the demise of Iman Al-Zawahiri, the leader of Al-Qaeda,

0:10.0

and a key planner of the 9-11 attacks.

0:12.0

My guest is Foundation for Defense of Democracy's senior fellow Bill Rogio, who has been one of the best and most plugged-in journalists following America's war against jihadist terror.

0:28.3

We make it clear again tonight that no matter how long it takes, no matter where you hide, if you are a threat to our people, the United States will find you and take you out.

0:45.1

We just heard Joe Biden on a rare good day for his presidency. He was announcing the successful drone strike against al-Qaeda's leader,

0:57.7

Iman al-Zawahiri, in Kabul on July 30th. That strike is a testament to the determination of the CIA

1:02.2

to find and kill the leaders of the organization that felled the Twin Towers

1:07.7

and destroyed a wing of the Pentagon on September 11, 2001.

1:12.7

Iman El Zawarri was a vile fanatic. He deserved his fate. He was not, though,

1:18.5

driven to his fanaticism through deprivation or oppression. That is a pleasant myth.

1:24.3

Many U.S. leaders believed in the years following 9-11, the view that if we created

1:29.6

open societies in the Islamic world, young listless men would not be tempted to join the death

1:36.0

cult that is al-Qaeda or ISIS. Here's former State Department deputy spokeswoman Marie Harf,

1:42.2

making this point nearly eight years ago.

1:45.0

Where there are places around the world, where there's a lack of governance, a lack of economic

1:49.0

opportunity. President George W. Bush talked about poverty, being one of the drivers that leads

1:54.0

people to extremism. Where there are lacking in these kinds of opportunities, we need to talk

2:00.0

about how to make that different,

2:02.0

how to help our partners around the world give young men in that vulnerable age group a different

2:07.0

path in life, show them that there's a different chance for them than joining a terrorist

2:10.5

organization.

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