Hello and welcome to Happier, a podcast that gives you strategies on how to build happier

habits.

This week we'll talk about why you shouldn't interview for pain and why shared work is

a big problem for happiness.

I'm Gretchen Rubin, a writer whose studies happiness, good habits, and human nature.

I'm in New York City and with me is my sister's a stage Elizabeth Kraft.

That's me Elizabeth Kraft, a TV writer and producer living in LA.

The impression is you can probably hear I have suffering some allergies so my voice is

you know even more whatever it is than usual so there with me.

I thought people didn't get allergies in LA.

Oh yeah we got winds and all sorts of stuff in the air so forgive me.

Okay well before we get started listeners stick around to the end and we will give you

easy instructions on how to subscribe if you're not sure how to subscribe to a podcast

because it seems very mysterious but it's actually super duper easy so we'll include

that at the end of the podcast.

But first we're going to have an update and Elizabeth burning question have you worked

on your novel?

You're in a blighter we're holding you accountable have you started work on your novel?

Oh god I knew this question was coming.

It's going to come many times.

You can guess what my answer is based on that.

I haven't worked on it yet.

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