Hello and welcome to Something's Off with Andrew Heaton. I'm your host Andrew Duncirk McGillic-Cuddy-Heaton Esquire. And today, it being Friday, I am going to have a proper adult interview with a proper adult.

He is under no obligation to be funny.

We're just going to have a thoughtful chat about something that I find fascinating and which kind of blew

my mind.

I'm going to introduce him in a minute,

but basically I kind of began this podcast

with the premise that we're becoming more polarized and extreme and and extreme and angry.

And at least part of that thesis

that I'm working with is incorrect.

And I've been turned around on this issue

by Dr. Morris Figuarina, who will join me.

But I think it's gonna be a very good chat and I think it's going to make you

look at the way we perceive American politics very differently by the end of it.

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