Okay, Tim, good to go when you are.

Today is a dear lovejoy podcast special and today, we like to do these every now and then.

Today we're having a conversation with David Hamilton, PhD, and he's written a book,

The Five Side Effects of Kindness.

And it says caution on the front of it.

This book will make you feel better be happier and live

longer and as this podcast that sounds terrible vice podcast we thought which bit living longer of

being happier feeling better um he's so it's going to be interesting because he he i've spoken

to before and he found that kindness has this remarkable effect on your body.

Here's the claims.

Kindness makes us happier.

Kindness is good for the heart.

It slows aging.

It improves relationships and it also is contagious.

They're the five chapters of the book and that's what he's selling it on.

He's an interesting guy, David, though,

because he used to work in the pharmaceutical industry for four years, so he's not just

sort of making this up, mumbo jumbo way. And he just, one day he sort of worked out that

kindness was very good for you and better than drugs and so he just decided to start

kind of like preaching on it I suppose in a way but I'm also interested to know what he thinks of the

pharmaceutical industry if kindness is as good as a drug then what is the pharmaceutical well let's

we'll ask him some questions about that I'm intrigued intrigued by the pharmaceutical industry. I think it's fascinating.

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